Comments on The Greening of Gavin: Unwarranted Personal Attack

Hi Gavin, having Anon's and your reply, well g...

2010-03-28T18:32:22.852+11:00

Hi Gavin, having Anon's and your reply, well good on you. Never back down in the face of adversity. It's not easy for any eco-friendly folks to get the job done and with attitudes like Anon's it makes it 10x harder.

We all need to do our little part to help. I know one man/woman alone cannot change the world, but many 1000s can, and we all must play our small part where we can. I'm surprised he hasn't found my blog and bashed me over the head with his rhetoric, although I've just started so no doubt I'll get a visit someday :D

You can take heart that because he used the Anonymous tag, he's nothing but a troll, and they are easily dismissed.

You now know there are more and more of us joining the eco-world everyday, and together, we can do some good. Great blog btw, and I'm sure I will learn a lot from you.

Gav, I have to admit that much of Anon says and ...

2009-12-13T12:14:56.483+11:00

Gav,

I have to admit that much of Anon says and others like him/her scare me but I am intelligent enough (well I hope so) to sort through the hype and fear to find the foundation of truth.

That truth for me is simple. For the majority of people; things don't change unless someone can make a lot of money out of the change or people's back pocket starts to hurt. Money or the lack of it, is very motivating.

If it becomes too expensive for us to use our car as much as we did, then we will look for alternatives like public transport. If the market starts demanding cars that uses cheaper alternative biofuels well then there is money to be made from it and companies will start producing these cars and biofuels.

If it becomes too expensive to eat red meat every night of the week, well I guess people will quickly learn how to make yummy meals out of beans.

My attitude is if there is a chance that global warming is not actually happening then I say isn't living a sustainable life still a good thing for the environment, for future generations and for your back pocket?

Onya Gavin, I have only recently found your blog a...

2009-12-11T23:42:53.794+11:00

Onya Gavin, I have only recently found your blog and am enjoying the reading. I agree with all you have said on this matter, unfortunately the world is full of people like Anon.

Have a great weekend,

Tania

Many thanks to one and all for the very kind and s...

2009-12-11T21:38:18.817+11:00

Many thanks to one and all for the very kind and supportive comments. You don't know how much it means to me.

I agree with you all, and hope to see the end of anon and their kind. I think that you have scared it away, for a while anyway!

It is a pity we can't keep the rest of them out of the media to stop the added confusion for the general public who have a hard enough time of accepting the ramifications of climate change and the action that is inevitably required.

Gav x

Well said Gavin, I;m with you all the way

2009-12-11T16:35:55.221+11:00

Well said Gavin, I;m with you all the way

Well said Gav!!

2009-12-11T12:55:13.934+11:00

Well said Gav!!

I'm all for debate and discussion but to hide ...

2009-12-11T10:51:46.208+11:00

I'm all for debate and discussion but to hide behind Anon and bitch and whine about having to pay for your impact on the planet is pathetic.

It doesn't matter if you believe humans are responsible for the accelerated climate change or not. Our lifestyle is nothing more than gluttony. We use and consume with abandon and it's time we learnt some restraint. If it means been hit in the hip pocket, so be it, we caused the problem and it's our responsibility to fix it.

Anon your comments may have had more credibility if you'd had the common decency to use your name.

Gavin, well said, as usual. Keep up the good work and to borrow a phrase from the late Don Chipp 'keep the bastards honest'

ver word - china maybe it's just me but I see a bit of irony there

Go Gav!!

2009-12-11T10:45:58.054+11:00

Go Gav!!

Nice rebuttal Gav, though it makes me sad (once ag...

2009-12-11T10:16:50.189+11:00

Nice rebuttal Gav, though it makes me sad (once again) that Anon is not alone is his/her thinking, it's all I seem to be hearing this week...

You go GAV! Heck, BC imposed a carbon tax last yea...

2009-12-11T10:01:39.730+11:00

You go GAV! Heck, BC imposed a carbon tax last year and we MADE money because they gave rebates to low-income folks (that'ssss us!) based on income. We qualified for a $200 rebate. But since we only drive 600 miles a year, and we have consumed 10-15% of the average *everything* for the last couple of years we didn't pay anywhere close to that out in carbon taxes. There's gonna be lots of gnashing of teeth while they try to figure out how to repurpose all those Hummers. (planter? granny suite? *chicken coop*? LOL)

Oh, I am so glad I came back to check if you had r...

2009-12-11T09:40:42.707+11:00

Oh, I am so glad I came back to check if you had responded in the comments section of your last post to Anon! Well said... have a great weekend!

WTG Gavin! Nothing annoys me more than these creti...

2009-12-11T09:27:44.162+11:00

WTG Gavin! Nothing annoys me more than these cretins who spinelessly hide behind "ANON" to post their half baked synapses.

Keep on posting!

those 'e cant afford it' arguments piss me...

2009-12-11T09:26:10.298+11:00

those 'e cant afford it' arguments piss me off. Prolly not an employee tho'- just someone whos plagarised trashy newspaper reports. Ive seena few that look very similar. Lol. thanks for the laugh Gave. have a green weekend!

Yet another global government conspiracy theory nu...

2009-12-11T09:10:48.342+11:00

Yet another global government conspiracy theory nutter, ho hum. Don't they realise that the only way "beurocracy" (bureaucracy for the educated) can act upon anything is via more bureaucracy, so there is nothing unusual about the approach government is taking at all, well, except for failing to realise that more bureaucracy usually doesn't work. Certainly no conspiracy.

The sad thing is this guy has children and somehow maintains the illusion that the extra wealth he gains from making these comments (whether via direct compensation or through lower future taxes if he succeeds in his goal of preventing future action) is going to save their bacon from climate change.

He should read some of Monbiot's stuff for a bit of perspective.

Keep up the good work, and see this as a sign that you must be having an impact if you're attracting their attention!

Team Gavin!!!

2009-12-11T07:34:57.591+11:00

Team Gavin!!!

Way to go Gavin!!! I've recently found your bl...

2009-12-11T00:17:35.920+11:00

Way to go Gavin!!! I've recently found your blog via the co-op and I like your honest style. You say what you think and your opinion on stuff. Since when were we not able to do that?!?!

I would much rather consume less than pay taxes and I'm sure many others feel the same way.

LMAO! Well Well... I am pleased to see that Climat...

2009-12-10T23:10:15.850+11:00

LMAO! Well Well... I am pleased to see that Climate change has awarded such a debate from such a narrow minded half wit... oppss did I just slander someone? Oh dear, my bad.... If Anon had ANY sense at all, they would have left a name and NOT drop slanderous crap in the lap of a simple family trying to do their bit for a Lesser impact on the Planet.

To judge another human being is wrong, to deface or dename is worse. How DARE you lay this type of political crap upon another human being who has OUTDONE themselves in making a difference.

Wake up to yourself! I am also assuming ANON is male. (no offense Gav) Only a male could be that bitchy. Comment by all means, Challenge the information by all means, but slander is just not acceptable IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

Lotsa Love Gav..... Keep up the GREAT work and I for one enjoy reading your blog as I KNOW how much time you put into research and how accurate it is.

xxxxxxx

Teena Webber

I had someone ask me the other day if I realised t...

2009-12-10T23:06:32.216+11:00

I had someone ask me the other day if I realised that these carbon taxes are going to increase the price of imported goods, electricity, and petrol (among other things).

Well, duh!

That's the whole point!

Those things are currently only 'cheap' because the cost of their environmental impact is externalised. Carbon tax is one way of trying to incorporate that cost back into the price of the product.

They also seemed to think that this was just going to increase the cost of living without actually changing anything. They seem to assume that we'd keep buying the same amounts of these things.

In actual fact, what will happen in many (most?) cases is that those products will become more expensive relative to more sustainably-produced substitutes. This will cause people to switch to the lower-impact substitutes, which is a good thing. Companies will also look for ways to reduce the carbon footprint of their existing products so they don't have to pay so much in emissions taxes, thereby making them lower-impact as well.

Yes, it's going to change things, and yes, some things are going to cost us more. I'm sure there will be some inconveniences along the way. But stuffing up the planet would be pretty inconvenient too, don't you think?

Wow. I have to say it saddens me that someone woul...

2009-12-10T22:43:49.163+11:00

Wow. I have to say it saddens me that someone would hide behind the title of 'anon' to play childish name calling games. Ridiculous.
After reading your last post I watched The Inconvenient Truth and it has definitely opened my eyes and answered some of those tricky questions. Thank you for pulling the wool out of our eyes and showing things can be done by anyone.
:)